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		<title>By: Westminster Pier Park: controversial, audacious and vital &#124; Tenth To The Fraser</title>
		<link>http://www.tenthtothefraser.ca/2009/06/05/a-critical-eye-on-canadians-for-reconciliation/comment-page-1/#comment-6594</link>
		<dc:creator>Westminster Pier Park: controversial, audacious and vital &#124; Tenth To The Fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with many mistakes made in the past, not only contaminated sites but forgotten cemeteries, historic institutionalized racism, and more. The true test of our city&#8217;s (and citizens&#8217;) character is what we [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with many mistakes made in the past, not only contaminated sites but forgotten cemeteries, historic institutionalized racism, and more. The true test of our city&#8217;s (and citizens&#8217;) character is what we [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Strub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Strub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 17:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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well based on the arguments and counter arguments posted here, its seems that &quot;reconciliation&quot; is remote. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well based on the arguments and counter arguments posted here, its seems that &quot;reconciliation&quot; is remote.</p>
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		<title>By: Norman Wriglesworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norman Wriglesworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 19:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah, it&#039;s called Antarctica ! 
But the penguins will get it sooner or later ! 
 
N.W. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah, it&#39;s called Antarctica !<br />
But the penguins will get it sooner or later ! </p>
<p>N.W.</p>
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		<title>By: justanothercdn</title>
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		<dc:creator>justanothercdn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 18:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol... I wonder if anybody could name a place the white man didn&#039;t go, loot, rape, and force religion on.   
 
Perhaps if it wasn&#039;t for the Brits that forced Opium (Opium War 1+2) and took concessions in China/HK, eventually leading to hunger,  war and civil war, none of the Chinese would&#039;ve arrived here.  Cause and effect bitches.   
 
Remember, there&#039;s a reason why the worlds best antiques are at the British Royal Museam.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol&#8230; I wonder if anybody could name a place the white man didn&#39;t go, loot, rape, and force religion on.   </p>
<p>Perhaps if it wasn&#39;t for the Brits that forced Opium (Opium War 1+2) and took concessions in China/HK, eventually leading to hunger,  war and civil war, none of the Chinese would&#39;ve arrived here.  Cause and effect bitches.   </p>
<p>Remember, there&#39;s a reason why the worlds best antiques are at the British Royal Museam.</p>
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		<title>By: Norman Wriglesworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norman Wriglesworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 23:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy Smoke! 
 
This is a subject we need Bill Barley to comment on. 
 
From my understanding a lot of Chinese came to the west coast of their own free will to hunt for GOLD and then returned to China. Some stayed behind, made a new life here. The ones that returned RICH caused further waves of immigrants seeking fortune in foreign lands, hence head tax. 
 
Now we have Mexican coming to pick crops in the interior, who live in squalor conditions so they can make some money to better there life back home. I wonder if they pay some type of TAX ? Hmmm.... 
 
Perhaps if the Chinese community that stayed here, and didn&#039;t recently immigrate because of HK returning to communist China,  cared about the building site or grave site, wouldn&#039;t they have said something about it ? Perhaps they moved on and accepted change. 
 
With these &#039;Charged&#039; topics racism can always be perceived, but Canada has always been a looting ground for foreign countries. 
 
N.W. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy Smoke!</p>
<p>This is a subject we need Bill Barley to comment on.</p>
<p>From my understanding a lot of Chinese came to the west coast of their own free will to hunt for GOLD and then returned to China. Some stayed behind, made a new life here. The ones that returned RICH caused further waves of immigrants seeking fortune in foreign lands, hence head tax.</p>
<p>Now we have Mexican coming to pick crops in the interior, who live in squalor conditions so they can make some money to better there life back home. I wonder if they pay some type of TAX ? Hmmm&#8230;.</p>
<p>Perhaps if the Chinese community that stayed here, and didn&#39;t recently immigrate because of HK returning to communist China,  cared about the building site or grave site, wouldn&#39;t they have said something about it ? Perhaps they moved on and accepted change.</p>
<p>With these &#39;Charged&#39; topics racism can always be perceived, but Canada has always been a looting ground for foreign countries.</p>
<p>N.W.</p>
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		<title>By: the UGLY Chinese Canadian</title>
		<link>http://www.tenthtothefraser.ca/2009/06/05/a-critical-eye-on-canadians-for-reconciliation/comment-page-1/#comment-2333</link>
		<dc:creator>the UGLY Chinese Canadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] author of the blog,  &#8220;Tenth to the Fraser&#8221; prepared the following post on June 5, 2009 on this topic, and with permission, we&#8217;ve [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tenth to the Fraser Best of 2009 &#124; Tenth To The Fraser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tenth to the Fraser Best of 2009 &#124; Tenth To The Fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also loved my husband Will&#8217;s rebuttal to Bill Chu of &#8220;Canadians for Reconciliation,&#8221; whose laser focus on historical incidents of racism in the Royal City resulted in much [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] also loved my husband Will&#8217;s rebuttal to Bill Chu of &#8220;Canadians for Reconciliation,&#8221; whose laser focus on historical incidents of racism in the Royal City resulted in much [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Robertson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are all fed up with the endless demands for apologies. Move on and work together to ensure a better future for upcoming generations. 
 
Regurgitating the past and pointing the finger of blame does nothing positive. 
 
People today should not be made to feel guilty about the past. 
 
And by the way, Mr. Chu are your people so perfect that they haven&#039;t committed atrocities that they should feel guilty for? 
 
It seems that only white European people are forever  
criticized for the past. 
 
Everyone else is perfect, is that what you are trying to say? Better get over it. 
 
A disgusted New Westminster resident, tired of being attacked because I am a white man. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are all fed up with the endless demands for apologies. Move on and work together to ensure a better future for upcoming generations.</p>
<p>Regurgitating the past and pointing the finger of blame does nothing positive.</p>
<p>People today should not be made to feel guilty about the past.</p>
<p>And by the way, Mr. Chu are your people so perfect that they haven&#39;t committed atrocities that they should feel guilty for?</p>
<p>It seems that only white European people are forever </p>
<p>criticized for the past.</p>
<p>Everyone else is perfect, is that what you are trying to say? Better get over it.</p>
<p>A disgusted New Westminster resident, tired of being attacked because I am a white man.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.tenthtothefraser.ca/2009/06/05/a-critical-eye-on-canadians-for-reconciliation/comment-page-1/#comment-715</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Mr. Will Tomkinson 
 
I have read and enjoyed your article about Mr. Chu and have only this to say. And this is not a racist comment. I find it highly objectional that an immigrant like Mr Chu comes to Canada and criticizes our country. Mr. Chu should realize that Canada was built by and advanced by white European people. 
 
If oriental people who have lived here all their lives and feel slighted then let them speak out against any mistreatment that may have occured in the past. 
 
I am a white male of Scottish descent and born in Calgary and I have absolutely no guilt at all about what happened in the past. It seems that no media outlet anywhere in this country recognizes the contributions white people have made to this country and instead focuses on the bad things that have happened that no white person today need feel guilty for. 
 
If Mr. Chu doesn`t like Canadian history he can go back to Hong Kong. Let the people here who have experienced discrimination speak out. 
 
Let`s hear something POSITIVE about white European  
people and our contributions that make Canada the good country it is. 
 
I am fed up with all the negativity  
 
$ </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Mr. Will Tomkinson</p>
<p>I have read and enjoyed your article about Mr. Chu and have only this to say. And this is not a racist comment. I find it highly objectional that an immigrant like Mr Chu comes to Canada and criticizes our country. Mr. Chu should realize that Canada was built by and advanced by white European people.</p>
<p>If oriental people who have lived here all their lives and feel slighted then let them speak out against any mistreatment that may have occured in the past.</p>
<p>I am a white male of Scottish descent and born in Calgary and I have absolutely no guilt at all about what happened in the past. It seems that no media outlet anywhere in this country recognizes the contributions white people have made to this country and instead focuses on the bad things that have happened that no white person today need feel guilty for.</p>
<p>If Mr. Chu doesn`t like Canadian history he can go back to Hong Kong. Let the people here who have experienced discrimination speak out.</p>
<p>Let`s hear something POSITIVE about white European </p>
<p>people and our contributions that make Canada the good country it is.</p>
<p>I am fed up with all the negativity </p>
<p>$</p>
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		<title>By: Welcome Newsleader readers &#124; Tenth To The Fraser</title>
		<link>http://www.tenthtothefraser.ca/2009/06/05/a-critical-eye-on-canadians-for-reconciliation/comment-page-1/#comment-709</link>
		<dc:creator>Welcome Newsleader readers &#124; Tenth To The Fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] press release to get ink on historical mistreatment of Chinese Canadians in New Westminster, but as Will points out in his post, the other side of the story has been underrepresented in the media. If you&#8217;re here from the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] press release to get ink on historical mistreatment of Chinese Canadians in New Westminster, but as Will points out in his post, the other side of the story has been underrepresented in the media. If you&#8217;re here from the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Schweitzer</title>
		<link>http://www.tenthtothefraser.ca/2009/06/05/a-critical-eye-on-canadians-for-reconciliation/comment-page-1/#comment-662</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Schweitzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very thoughtful and thought-provoking article...did you see the opinion piece by Daphne Bramham on the front page of the Sun today? Might be worth sending her your two cents as she certainly seems to take Bill Chu&#039;s claims at face value. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very thoughtful and thought-provoking article&#8230;did you see the opinion piece by Daphne Bramham on the front page of the Sun today? Might be worth sending her your two cents as she certainly seems to take Bill Chu&#39;s claims at face value.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Lundy</title>
		<link>http://www.tenthtothefraser.ca/2009/06/05/a-critical-eye-on-canadians-for-reconciliation/comment-page-1/#comment-645</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Lundy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 12:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another note on the &quot;Canadians for reconciliation&quot; there&#039;s a split in the Chinese community over the head tax issue. I was at a presentation at the Vancouver and District Labour Council a few months ago, which this was discussed. Bill Chu doesn&#039;t speak for the Chinese community as a whole. And therefore people need to really think things through over these issues. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another note on the &quot;Canadians for reconciliation&quot; there&#39;s a split in the Chinese community over the head tax issue. I was at a presentation at the Vancouver and District Labour Council a few months ago, which this was discussed. Bill Chu doesn&#39;t speak for the Chinese community as a whole. And therefore people need to really think things through over these issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Lundy</title>
		<link>http://www.tenthtothefraser.ca/2009/06/05/a-critical-eye-on-canadians-for-reconciliation/comment-page-1/#comment-644</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Lundy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 12:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seemed to be some reaching out to the Chinese community during the recent Hyack festival, with the massive inclusion of the community into the Parade. In terms of the memorial, does it have to built onto the site of NWSS? Perhaps something can be done in Queens Park. There seems to be alot more space for something to be put there, as opposed to the school site. And also perhaps something can be looked into to establish some prominence of the memorial within the park.  
 
Let&#039;s be honest and truthful here though. Our society has come a long way in terms of racism and the behaviours that existed so long ago. There&#039;s only so many amends that can be made, formal apologies made, and the like. But contrary to what some people believe can happen in New Westminster, you can&#039;t turn back the clock and right the wrong. You can apologize on behalf of those that came before us, that built the railway using cheap Chinese and Irish labour at the time, and that did the things they did in the various communities throughout what is know Greater Vancouver. But how far do we as a society go? I believe that an apology and recognition of past wrongs is the right way to go, perhaps along with a memorial in a revered place in New West such as Queens Park or maybe even friendship gardens? We should never forget our passed history. At the same time, the world moves forward, people become more tolerant and people move on. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seemed to be some reaching out to the Chinese community during the recent Hyack festival, with the massive inclusion of the community into the Parade. In terms of the memorial, does it have to built onto the site of NWSS? Perhaps something can be done in Queens Park. There seems to be alot more space for something to be put there, as opposed to the school site. And also perhaps something can be looked into to establish some prominence of the memorial within the park. </p>
<p>Let&#39;s be honest and truthful here though. Our society has come a long way in terms of racism and the behaviours that existed so long ago. There&#39;s only so many amends that can be made, formal apologies made, and the like. But contrary to what some people believe can happen in New Westminster, you can&#39;t turn back the clock and right the wrong. You can apologize on behalf of those that came before us, that built the railway using cheap Chinese and Irish labour at the time, and that did the things they did in the various communities throughout what is know Greater Vancouver. But how far do we as a society go? I believe that an apology and recognition of past wrongs is the right way to go, perhaps along with a memorial in a revered place in New West such as Queens Park or maybe even friendship gardens? We should never forget our passed history. At the same time, the world moves forward, people become more tolerant and people move on.</p>
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